maybe in the future we will not have regular beats maybe we will have actually progressed as human beings that we don't need a disco beats to enjoy ourselves it could be something much more advanced and why are they electronic because i like making drum sound i'm han zimmer and this is how we created the score for dune i read the book as a teenager when i was 14 years old and i loved it i never saw the david lynch version i never saw the television version nor did i hear the music because i had a sort of a vision and a sound in my head my challenge was not being a grown-up not trying to be the man who's done a lot of movies but to regress in a way and become the reckless 13 year old teenager and right as a 13 year old teenager i think it was more challenge to everybody else my behavior but i loved it i remember as a 13 year old going and seeing science fiction movies and going why do all these science fiction movies have european orchestra orchestral sounds romantic period tonalities about them [Music] we're supposed to be on a different planet different culture we're supposed to be in the future [Music] all of this was done in the time of curvature which was oddly liberating to a certain degree because we could all work in our own environments and we could communicate constantly part of the band was in london and part of the bad was in vienna so it was truly an international way of working in inception you know people talking about the bram sound the low brass i made the sound but that means nothing chris wrote the sound in his screenplay to inception it was his way of showing time slowing down we booked a studio for the next day with 10 brass players and we had a piano in the middle of the room with a brick on the sustain panel so the brass would play into this piano and all the strings would be vibrating and that's the sound of inception something i wanted to always do to invent instruments that don't exist invent sounds that don't exist for instance i work with a chap called chaz smith he's either a great sculptor or he's either a great musician and he builds these sculptures that you can either hit or you can bow like a violin or cello but then there's another part to it which is where it gets very complicated he has basically built himself in northern california a house which is a musical instrument a lot of those sort of metal being excited in in unconventional ways [Music] so i had this framework of exotic synthesized or built instruments i remember saying to tina grow my cellist i want your channel to sound like a tibetan warhorn [Music] i don't even know if there's a tibetan war hunt but she got the image we built the sort of electronic chamber resonators really ultimately all of that is just a frame for the one thing that i thought was more important than anything else in the world which was the human voice the one thing that would not age the one thing that in the future would still be valid [Music] how did you create the chant that's more than one voice it's only one voice it's a chap called michael fantastic singer we had a language written out by a linguist it's just about technology if you use a compressor if you overuse it it's it feels like you're slamming your head against the door frame you take a while to recover so the compressor takes a while to recover you know when you slam michael's voice into it so by taking each syllable apart and stretching it out and leaving gaps i could then go and slam every syllable and make every syllable sound like i sound incredibly dangerous and [Music] i violent of course completely transformed his voice into something that was more like a cannonball hitting you in the head and i played it today more as an experiment and denise's reaction was oh could be an interesting way to start the movie by putting that voice there as opposed to hearing the beautiful fanfare of the european orchestra you instantly knew we were going to tell you a story that was dark and mysterious and different and you couldn't quite work out what's as human or was it beyond humanity you want to invite your audience on an adventure you want to invite them on a journey you have to do it right at the beginning you have to say it's not going to be quite what you imagined it's going to be different it's going to be interesting and i did that on lion king with my friend lemo where suddenly in a disney movie over black you hear this this amazing chant from africa and you instantly know it's not going to be princesses in the conventional sense the movie is driven in its own sort of secret way by the female characters they might not be your main characters but they are certainly the underlying strengths to everything that you experience and so i met loia kotler who is an extraordinary vocalist tina wants to do interstellar lisa wants to do gladiator probably and we also do um dark phoenix dunkirk with uh lua oh [ __ ] yeah this ladies and gentlemen it's the heroic loire cutler when you are asked to do something that is not in the traditional uh parameter of what you would think the voice could do and then you say yes and you say yes to doing something that in your words is reckless yes amazing things start to happen but laura's history is that she does a particular type of singing which is highly unusual can you do a bit of of the rhythmic stuff daddy we were talking about that dune has its own rhythm so it's obvious that i would find a woman who should know everything about rhythm and then give you the cry of a banshee [Applause] there's a strength there's a force that hits you even without you know reverb and compressors and all sorts of stuff and that wasn't her voice [Music] the first time i saw them arriving on the planet arrakis and i saw the bagpiper you know i went oh of course they're the royal house so normally you have like you know trumpet fanfare or something like this heralding you know the new ruler but bagpipes they're not just scottish celtic or irish but i know that they're caledonian ones and spanish ones and middle eastern ones wherever you have a goat and you have a piece of wood all i want to say is the goat better watch out because he's probably going to end up being a bagpipe [Music] the bagpipe you hear is really my guitarist guthrie garvin imitating a bagpipe on his guitar and then we have the 30 backpack players come in [Music] we are in a very ethnic sort of landscape so there is not a lot of wood around on our planet but what we do have we made flutes out of and i kept saying to pedo you start my flawless don't play it like a flute played as if it was the wind whistling through the desert dunes you asked me how the score was made and i said we were all colleagues and we did it all together and that's how it works the only thing i guarantee you is i will speak the truth this is the duke and this is a very very ancient instrument um and that's a phrase from gladiator actually so that's good [Music] we knew we could do that but then i said to him i don't want you to play flutes can you make the sound of wind rushing through yeah but well plus a lot of things were built there were many journeys to the hardware store pvc is your friend pvc piping i actually made a subcontra bass doduk by putting this into a very long tube of pvc and i literally i cut the thing to get the different tones so it's an instrument that doesn't exist anywhere i do things that not many people in the world can do but then i told him yes yeah i can do this he said can you do air yeah i can do but can you make vowels while you're doing the air in a fluid and go like no don't do this to me and it's [Music] [Applause] [Music] and we did that from a piccolo bansuli to this big fat mama which is back there which is a contrabass flute and i remember one time i sent him 89 tracks of just the dukes because nobody's ever done it you're used to seeing 32 violins you know 14 telly six bases your normal beethoven type orchestra but imagine you did it all out of those instruments what would that sound like amazing i played this thing just a zorna and i'm not going to do it now because i will break all of your ears and everything believe me i'm doing your face just just do it just i just want to see the enamel like he got me playing notes that i didn't know i could play up there he doesn't know about him it's partly the bagpipe yeah it's not a backpack it's just what you hear is not what you see [Music] [Music] you
