2021 Black History Month – Traditional African Drumming featuring Mamady WADABA Kourouma!

and turn it over to ko ogawa and wadaba okay can you hear me all right can you hear 
me we can hear you okay great um sorry to   do this to y'all but i got some big blob in the 
middle of my screen i'm gonna get rid of rid of   okay my name is ko ogawa and um i will be 
presenting wataban a second here but i want   to mention that for the first 40 minutes this 
program will feature what about and then later on   we're going to try and do some playing ourselves 
and what i would like to encourage everybody to   do is at some point take a moment and run to some 
place in your house and grab something to play and   ultimately if you don't have something to grab you 
can just play on your legs like that or you can   clap but you can grab things like a water bottle 
or a plastic bucket or a pot and play that or a plastic bottle with rice in it or even a little 
skillet so just wanted to mention that to you   but before we do the drum circle 
stuff we are going to do traditional   produce traditional rhythms from west africa 
dna specifically and the person that will be   leading this his full name is mamadi 
kuruma but his nickname wadabah   is pretty much what everybody calls him and 
in his language the malinki language what aba   means great panther so um the rhythms that we will 
be doing with him are very ancient very specific   um very complex beautiful rhythms with multiple 
parts and it's it's kind of like a drum orchestra   with a lot of sophistication and um the 
rhythms are played for specific reasons   in life together with the community 
traditionally it's not an audience um   uh and performer kind of a gig it's uh 
everybody participates in the village   kind of a gig so without further ado i 
present to you the great panther guinea west africa thank you everybody thank you amen for she whatever sorry my english little bit i try today 
i play a little bit deeper my future   my ability of everybody together i don't want to 
lose my speculators one people take your house   your room your friend your family your mama 
your father one day and me yeah somebody   i'm sorry today i said oh what happened now 
because everybody my mouth inside the back   you can't can nobody know are you happy i'm not 
happy sorry about that because everybody must appreciate god if you check problem good 
way i thought it goes away go there go away   everybody just go away don't 
tell me too much problem everybody friend papa 
everybody should care everybody and prayer god go away today everybody see me i'm happy 
happy i born from the ground   my father my mama everybody play 
dance singing everything fun because the trump music african people 
american people is music that's medicine   good medicine for help people for help think for 
help you body help you up to help you you know   nobody know tomorrow everybody knows yesterday 
passed you did you see what happened in your life   tomorrow somebody know you know and today i pray 
from everybody everywhere i want everybody happy   everybody learn a little bit 
my pleasure out later today   from adidas west africa thank you 
thank you for coming to me thank you so wow okay do so wow so so so so the next song that we're going 
to do is one of the oldest   rhythms in malenkay history it is called sofa 
and this rhythm in the past was only played   to celebrate soldiers going out or coming back 
from war nowadays since there are no longer inter   cultural wars in the culture 
they use this rhythm to welcome   very very important people kings diplomats 
things like that people with big names very um important rhythm in the history of guinea 
and not a lot of people play this rhythm anymore   and so these rhythms are very much 
at risk of becoming extinct so what   about cass is on the tradition of keeping 
these rhythms alive by playing them to you   and he hopes that if you ever decide to 
learn this tradition you pass on these   the information correctly so that their 
culture will stay alive and next so far so so so so so so so so so what our next song is called means tomorrow means speech so 
it means tomorrow's talk and   there are many many different proverbs and 
stories in the malinka tradition that teach people   and children about how to do their life 
correctly so the story of cinecom is all about   um what do you do today what you say today is 
going to set you up for what happens tomorrow   it's not exactly like karma it's a little bit 
more direct for example parents will say to   their children to think about cinecom because 
if they're disobedient now they're going to be   looked at as being you know not a very good 
child or not a very good person tomorrow   if you talk back to your parents then tomorrow 
your life isn't going to be quite as good for you   if uh if i talk to a stranger and i'm just meeting 
them and i'm i'm i'm like in a bad mood and i   and i talk sharply to them for all i know they're 
an attorney and i get to know him better and a   year or two later they're going to help me but 
if i'm mean to them today they're not going to   so cynical is a big big lesson 
in life and their words say so the words are singing all about tomorrow's talk african tired every time you talk 
to your friend think tomorrow   you talk to your father think tomorrow you talk 
to your son think tomorrow what happened in your   life tomorrow because today you don't have money 
you don't have risk tomorrow you have the money   you don't have no risk you don't know you talk 
your friend your family your father your mama   your friend before you think you talk think 
brush okay thank you music okay thank you oh is foreign so uh   my   uh   ah thank you thank you thank you at this point buddy jones he has 
been playing drums since forever   yes and he is forever too he's an elder in our 
community how much would you turn 80 or something   well um caleb can say that i'm the elder but 
in traditional african drumming i i would   have been sitting rather than standing as the 
elder but they got me standing in their city   um yes i have been playing dramas most of my 
life but um there's this funny thing about   creativity and for many years when i would play 
drums i thought i was coming up with something new   until i ran into ko ogawa and she 
said to me you really have the rhythms   but they're in the wrong place 
and i didn't quite understand that   until she introduced me to guatemala and i'd 
like to say in my experience with swimming   that both kale and wadava are the best instructors 
and gym and african drumming that i've encountered   but what's what's more important is the great 
thought hi angelo said what you do speaks   so loudly i can't hear what you're saying and 
that definitely is the case in this situation   because you can't see our mouth move it's all 
covered and the only thing we can do is to make   some good drumming and it wasn't until i ran 
into kale and water to understand that drumming   is more than just a rhythm it's a language it's 
a way of telling stories that's right so if any   of you ever have the possibility of learning 
basic traditional african drumming believe me   it will enhance all the other music that you've 
been playing because where did it come from   the motherland and if we if we know those basics 
i'm not a good drummer yet but i can sit i can sit   into i can sit in and follow it's more important 
that i'm known as a guy who loves to play with the   group rather than to show the group what i have 
it's more important that i participate and if   you learn those basic beats you can participate 
anywhere you want is that my minute one of them all right thank you so good much everybody's listen my 
friend that's my good girlfriend   long time 20 years 20 years 20 years and 
nobody every time i said what i need is help me   night time meeting time money time daytime we 
don't say it no he said yes i want to help you   that's important that's a true friend 
important important to help somebody   help your friend this drum i think 
that's what is you know original drum because this drum help people 
work in farm farm farming farming   in america or america that's a machine 
tractor working you sell everything   my country not now but a little bit people 
buy machine learning special my village   today no machine every time he follow the hell 
what come on don't be drunk people said talk drunk the man just helped and the woman club need i need one big machine for tech africa 
the only machine the old machine is the   command and there's all the machines 
for that and i need to know okay yes come on thank you i invite you all to close 
your eyes and think about picture this   the central valley of california a giant 
crew of people out in the fields working   and drummers playing for them just like that while 
they were that would be awesome that'd be so great   okay so now here's the iphones the iphones of 
africa this is the telephone sorry we're going to   cut our heads off but i want you to be able to see 
you want to talk about the telephone from africa this cream becoming west africa but that's 
different coming for it for it i think you know   yeah so normally okay so the malenke don't really 
have these instrument in their tradition but there   is a forest culture there's 47 different languages 
spoken in guinea i think something like that   23 sorry i'm wrong 23 different languages spoken 
in cuny and one of the cultures is where this   instrument comes from the forest deep in the 
forest where they have lots of trees come and   forest yeah no my child not your style 
because people that are mastered around now   if not play they don't know the story this 
story i learned little bit but i don't know   every day because you know my style my style 
is sanbang and kinkini that's my my family and i know a little bit the place foreign telephone 
telephone see the phone hello everybody coming   the chief command talk everybody my my place yeah 
well that's still one before that's the megaphone hey everybody come and meet him you know that's 
different style and this time i can't lie that   i know every just every time story is i know a 
little bit because of my my master graham famous   he saw me okay thank you you start now i like 
to play man i don't like too much talking okay do good so okay oh that was fun okay dang oh how much so much time we got we got five minutes everybody happy happy non-go 
sleepy no sleeping nothing okay this music come in my place of the world because this 
music talk what is your life you take a time somebody like 100 500 you 
see everything your life that's you you see   you see that's important music to take 
time good time good life you see every time you need to see everything you need the story 
you you you got a family i saw i saw i saw   sam my wife the father 105.

Yeah 
my father died at 105. 105. that he saw a lot in his life we saw 
everything this music come and talk   this people like decades long life this 
music come and talk nice see to take   long live long life you see every time you 
see something different you know okay thank   you thank you for listening to me because 
my english too little bit you know okay yes foreign foreign everybody wow oh hello so so one more really okay everybody i think everybody 
happy everybody taking your head move your body   shuts you down you sit down on her enough 
unless i'm played wrong because of my creator   i like playground for all people see 
whatever mamadi kuruma africa west africa   because my father my mama everybody mama yes men 
diani tim funny you know how he did my father play   dunumba play good good before before his pathway 
you can see it can listen can't hear you can't   hear because in the bed he played the bell and 
he dipped that made himself deaf it's death   that's all i'm missing for 
nobody i that's the end missing what about today you need play you need 
something call me okay you have the   question what about needing you play again 
i love that okay okay when you're back so so   so so so   hey thank you everybody thank you 
thank you thank you thank you so don't go away because now 
you get to play don't go away okay um we don't have a lot of time 
left but how much time do we have left oh sorry i had to unmute myself there i i'd 
say let's let's give it 10 15 minutes for sure   10 15.

Okay i can do that all right so uh now you just saw this i mean i can say 
it's phenomenal i love this stuff and   and i am never i i am never tired of it it never 
ceases to amaze me the energy that what about   brings and uh you know it's not about how fast 
you are it's not about how complicated you are   it's the feeling it's the feeling and here 
in the united states we really don't have   many traditions left where we're all playing 
together right we're all dancing together or   singing together right the closest thing we 
have now is things like hip-hop on the street   rap on the street uh if there's some real old 
folks that still do square dancing right uh stuff   like that where it's not an audience thing with 
uh performers we're all actually just a community   celebrating together and playing together so um 
the traditional african music very sophisticated   very complex but in america we've started a 
new tradition tradition of drum circle drumming   and i want to point out that this is very this is 
like the opposite end of the extreme what we just   did is not drum circle drumming what we're going 
to do now is drum circle drumming and drum circle   is where everybody just plays what they want and 
as long as it's in time it all works you can play   homemade things like you don't have to have 
money just have to have people willing to   get together this is a plastic bottle with 
some rice in it i showed it to you earlier   you can this is something like this costs a lot of 
money in the store but you don't have to have it this is a frying pan it can sound kind of like 
a like a cowbell or something it's got two tones   one tone there one tone there you can play that you can even play 
a pot right you can play a play a pot okay so you can play that these 
water jugs sound really great gotta hold them kind of loosely   they got a wonderful sound so there's a 
lot of things you can play that are free   but uh so one thing that i have found drum circle drummond for people like 
us americans all over i have found that   people's need people need to create people 
need to engage themselves in rhythm and music   and so one of the easiest and ex most accessible 
ways to do that is a drum circle situation so   uh there's two things that are really important to 
remember about drum circles um to get the feeling   and to have the feeling and embrace the feeling 
that makes it possible to be in the rhythm   is a very healing very powerful thing and if you 
keep that in mind when you're trying to do this   and when then when you get it you just you 
feel so much better afterwards if you're   feeling down-hearted you're feeling 
depressed you're feeling like uh   like you're being squashed 
by your society or whatever   you play this and you feel better and you feel 
stronger right so um the second thing to remember   is when you're engaging in a drum circle situation 
the best thing that you can do even though you're   getting this personal thing out of it is to serve 
the group so to be to be of service to the group   there are many ways to be of service but the first 
and foremost thing that a drum circle needs is the   bottom i call it the bottom because it's the base 
it's the foundation for the music and it allows   everybody else to kind of be more free 
um so before if you're in there to jam   and be free and stuff that is a 
privilege in a drum circle that you only   should take advantage of if you are also being 
of service to the bottom because without the   bottom the music falls apart with the bottom 
the music stays so i'm going to have my knife   yeah i'm going to have my two beautiful friends 
play the bottom for you and i'm going to offer   some rhythms that you can play along with 
with me so they're going they're going   they're going and then i'll play something 
and then you play something and then i play   something and then you play something i won't 
be able to hear you but maybe i could see you   uh out there a little bit playing 
your legs or playing a pot or whatever   so uh but buddy wants to say something first oh 
and i'm sorry before that i do want to introduce   our fourth member of this group this is jim 
he's been our student for a number of years   and um yeah he's there he's our beautiful 
friend and uh so gina is with us too i want   to give him that respect what were you going to 
say buddy well um i'm absolutely in line with you   on the bottom and the way to get to the bottom 
as important as anything else is to listen thank   you it's just as important to listen as it is to 
play the bottom is the result of listening first listening and feeling okay so the simplest   the simplest bottom that you can 
listen to in here is your own heartbeat   so i'm going to start with that as a bottom i 
encourage you all to try just playing the bottom   just close your eyes and let it let yourself 
ride but realize that when you play bottom you   are the thing that everybody's leaning on you 
are the force that is holding everything up   so you're not just sort of hanging out there 
you know uh you are actually starting to have an   awareness that you are the power right and that's 
a such a good thing such a good thing you're not   going to be alone here so we got these guys and 
we're going to go ahead and get them started okay quick quick question would you mind if 
um if someone wanted to unmute themselves   would you would that be i don't know how 
well it'll work on zoom but just so maybe   uh no actually that won't work okay now it won't 
work because their sound is going to come later   than our sound and it's going 
to and it's going to really   um it's going to make it hard for us to 
produce what we're producing got it got it um uh i'm going to experiment with 
some other things later we will see   yeah but yeah it doesn't really work here 
okay so um so the heartbeat will just go you can try and play it is a little phrase you can play just try that   okay driver uh together   so   okay now we're gonna keep going keep going ready up   my very very good okay so what i want to say is 
this is just just just just touching on the   very corner of what can happen anybody anybody can 
start a drum circle you don't have to have a drum   circle facilitator like what i'm doing it helps 
at the beginning but as long as you have that   bottom going real steady then the rest of 
people can experiment a little bit a little bit   and uh play things that they create i'm going 
to give you a very simple way of creating   your own rhythm because the way i teach my first 
graders and they are very good at picking this up   real fast i would have to say even faster than 
some adults is if you say it you can play it   okay if you say it you can play it 
so you can make up any word that   you can repeat over and over a phrase a sentence 
you repeat it over and over as long as it has a   rhythm you can play with your hands with 
your mouth to stand right so i can say   a chicken neck right a chicken nut a chicken 
neck a chicken nut a chicken see and i can say fresh plucked chicken wanna buy a chicken 
fresh cloth chicken wanna buy a chicken   fresh plug chicken wanna buy a chicken 
fresh plucked chicken wanna buy a chicken you see so um i'm going to maybe see if 
we can sing that together can you guys say louder all right so if you stay it you can play uh got a few more minutes maybe   i just wanna absolutely if you want to take 
about five more minutes then we'll go to q a   i just want to show you a few instruments 
that you can actually purchase that are   pretty pretty inexpensive uh can 
y'all see this is it backwards okay so i i made this handout for uh kids but it's 
pretty nice uh you're welcome to get out your cell   phone and take a snapshot of your screen i'll 
hold it for another few seconds here uh if you   want to take a picture of it but uh it it has 
a lot of typical percussion instruments that   you can buy for pretty cheap uh i don't know if 
anybody does anybody want to take a picture put   up your hand because i can't see if anybody is 
like searching for their phone or something but   in any case i'll put it up one more time right at 
the very end if you want to take a picture of that   but uh i just want to give some examples of how 
to play a couple of instruments this instrument a lot of people probably know this instrument 
it's a cow bell but it's a musical cowbell there   are actually those that hang on cows uh but this 
instrument has two basic sounds an open where you   hold it real loose and you hit it like that you 
don't want to hit it like that because if you do   it'll eat your stick hit it flat and then it has 
a sound up here and then you can take your finger   and you can mute the bell so you can go you got 
all those different sounds so you can just go   this is the best if you're just 
playing that that rules if you get off   the train is going to be a wreck this is one of 
the most powerful bottoms that anybody can play   in a drum circle really excellent instrument 
for people that want to lead a rhythm group hey how about um here is a a wood block got a 
little hole in it that makes it hollow it sounds   a lot like the pitting that we played earlier 
in the show with waterbot from the forest region   if you play it in the middle with your stick flat 
kind of like that just on top you have a nice open sound if you hit the edges you have a higher sound so you got two 
pitches kind of just like the kitten so these wood blocks are pretty 
darn inexpensive very affordable   um so that's a wood instrument the first was a 
metal instrument and then of course the shaker   and then of course you have these big bass 
drums so there's sort of a range of sounds and   timbers you can have and i encourage anybody 
that's trying to get a drum circle going to   have a little bit of peach metal shaker wood and 
drums and of course your hands and your heart so i was going to say thank you so much 
uh ko thank you to everyone thank you   wadabah i'm going to share just a 
powerpoint that we will end with   too just a quick slide in case you want more 
information about um what about and oops   and um what he does and and ko 
if i can get this to work here that has a lot of great information 
again thank you so much if you want   their information if you're interested 
in getting an authentic cd of their music   uh recorded in guinea west africa um again here 
here's the information for that so again thank   you so much if we can get just give a round 
of applause to wadabah and ko ogawa and um   and the other two gentlemen who are who 
are assisting today it has been absolutely   fantastic i think i can speak for for all 
of clovis community college when i say that   uh thank you so so much um it has been absolutely 
amazing and i know we're running just a little   short on time but we're i figure that we can go 
into our about a 15-minute question and answer   but before i do that i i do want to also give a 
special thank you because the presentation was   technically an hour and so uh ko and and wadabah 
have generously donated this this half hour this   extra half hour to us so um again thank you so 
so much um so i'm going to stop sharing that   and we are going to go to question and answer 
and so if you do have a question um feel free   to either raise your hand via the reaction button 
like i just did at the very bottom of your screen   or you can post it in the chat and i'm going to 
go ahead and get started um yesterday or a couple   days ago when we talked okay you had mentioned 
that um and you had mentioned it a little bit   during the presentation that the drumming of 
wada ba is different than the healing circle and   what kind of the differences are can you just 
go a little bit into that sure um okay so um   it's just an important distinction to make that 
they're both rhythmic they both involve drums   um but the the tradition of 
african drumming is historic   very specific sophisticated so it's important 
to not call that jerome circle drumming i think   because personally i think that that 
culture deserves a hell of a lot of respect   um and consideration and um we don't want to water 
down any of that culture we want to praise it   drum circle drumming on the other hand is free 
it's made up it doesn't have the same confines   that said it's also more sort of accessible to 
people who know nearly nothing about drumming   so it's a really good place to start to 
become engaged with rhythm and to find a   venue to feel that very first feeling 
that magical wonderful feeling   of being inside the music and feeling 
that rhythm fully in your heart thank you so much absolutely and it i'm 
glad that you're able to explain that a   little bit further i know that you did that 
during the during the presentation too um   what are some of the and i know that this is 
probably a whole presentation within itself   what are some of the um the ways 
that african drumming has influenced   uh music in the united states specifically 
oh my goodness both of us are laughing   yes okay so i'll i'll try to i'll try to i'll try 
to put it in a nutshell uh the nutshell version is   um most of our most popular and 
powerful and influential music   in our american music history um 
in the past i would say at least   80 years would not exist if it was not 
for the influence of african music it just we wouldn't have anything we wouldn't have any of 
our modern music none of it except maybe well pure   folk music um you know we wouldn't have jazz blues 
hip-hop rap r b um we wouldn't have any of that um   we wouldn't have the rhythms that go behind them 
uh see and i have to say that it's also important   to acknowledge that those kinds of music are 
not african music they're african-american um they are a a pure creation of americans because   um you know the roots may have come 
from africa but it was made here um i think that that the roots that i were talking about 
earlier about um whether it's music that   is something that people create together as a 
community or that people create um as a performer   audience kind of a thing the roots of african 
music inside of our african-american music in   the respect that it's something that the community 
participates in that root is still very present   in our african-american music and um i think 
it really stems from african-american music in   the african church because in the african church 
everybody was doing it together so that i think   that's really important to bring out that point 
that because that thread is still there we we   still feel like we can participate and it feels 
good we need to participate we have a human need yes sir today you heard some incredible music 
played by water and what about can't do that   kind of solo unless the bottom is right he 
calls it melody he can't hear the melody and came to my house and he had some classical 
music turned up as loud as it goes beethoven   and he was just in heaven and i asked him 
how come you like that precipice he says   i love the melon and that's that's 
when you start tracing things back that   african music if you don't have a melody you can't 
move forward the same thing with classical music thank you so much i i and again i i recognize 
that that is a big presentation within itself   but i wanted to make sure that that we recognized 
that and got that question and we do have another   question from our chat um coming from from 
michelle ko do you offer classes for families   do you mentioned working with first graders if so 
how is a family class different in terms of how   you teach well uh to be honest with you i've never 
we've never specifically taught a family but um   we have taught private classes that were a 
small group i mean they're sort of semi-private   classes and yes we absolutely do we will 
do we will adapt to any teaching situation   that there is we have taught um individuals 
we have taught small groups that that they   they are constantly together after the fact 
there's there's a particular group from la that   comes up occasionally and they play together 
down in l.a uh so yes yeah we can accommodate   pretty much anything you know prisons uh youth 
detention centers schools anything this coveted   condition has forced us to do things a lot 
differently and we are not going to let over   stop us from passing on traditional african music 
right on we will find a way yeah we'll find a way is that answer i think so yeah thank you 
absolutely just call us call or text me i don't i'm not real good with the uh 
the technology and i i don't do facebook   well because i fall in and stay there 
for hours and i can't afford that but   you know a text an email is 
perfect okay awesome thank you we're actually doing a really wonderful 
apprenticeship program right now with the   fellow that referred us to this particular event 
because he couldn't do it um his name is dante he   lives in the fresno inn for uh but he applied for 
a grant and he is now what about his apprentice   so him and a bunch of people come up kind of like 
a family and we teach them together every uh every   couple few weeks and that's going to happen 
for the next year it's a wonderful wonderful   thing thank you and that actually hit on uh 
another question that was sent to me if you were   interested in getting involved in learning african 
drums what would be your suggestion to get started uh well to get started uh around here i mean 
obviously i'm gonna say talk with us to take   a class um but another thing is just to listen 
to some african traditional music and get used   to the sound and see how much you love it um 
it's pretty raw it's pretty base it's it's real   different than american music obviously but it's 
the real thing um we have two wonderful cds again   phone call text email uh we'll mail it to you the 
cd it has the booklet as the words and the lyrics   so getting familiar with traditional music see 
spotify has some really nice tunes of mamadi keita   is a really really good person 
to listen to as is famous   so if you guys are ready with pen and pencil or to 
write this name down i can spell it mamadi is the   same as my husband mamadi m-a-m amazon amazonerry 
a amazon mary a d dog y kata is k-e-i-t-a   you can find him on spotify uh family is a little 
harder to find um but he is one of the great grand   masters and and what about his master and my 
master as well fahmadu is f a m like mary um oh those are like the best grandmasters of masters 
and if you can find their music and listen to   recordings you can just get an earful um when 
i was studying with uh mamadi keta he said   for all your practice time if you have 
an hour of practice time you practice   with your hands 40 minutes and you listen 20 
minutes it's all good thank you so much and   i do have one last question that i 
have to ask will you perform on campus   next year absolutely absolutely and um i i 
i do want to i want to add one more thing   um there's there's probably a lot of educators 
out there that have a chance to hear this if you   want to become a drum circle facilitator 
yourself you don't have to be a awesome   freaking musician you can still do it so i i can 
also teach people how to facilitate drum service   which is again different from traditional but it's 
still rhythmic and it's so accessible to newbies   really accessible a lot of the 
people that have studied us   studied the african music started in a 
drum circle and then they wanted more thank you so so much again i really appreciate 
you taking the time and again giving us an extra   half hour with you i really really appreciate 
it thank you so much if we can give just   another round of applause it's been such a 
wonderful presentation and such a wonderful   um uh morning being able to to to listen to the 
drumming to be able to interact ourselves and get   in some questions to end off i again i am going to 
share my screen so that way again you can see the   contact information for both wadabah and ko and 
again thank you so much i really appreciate it   and again thank you from clovis thank 
you patrick i appreciate the opportunity   thank you so much everyone 
this does conclude our event   i really appreciate you showing up and 
appreciate you um participating today and   throughout all the events the events that 
we've had this month um thank you again hey

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2021 Black History Month - Traditional African Drumming featuring Mamady WADABA Kourouma!

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